Gregg Township Centre County, Pennsylvania

August 2013


Gregg Township, Centre County

Board of Supervisors Meeting

August 8, 2013


Supervisors: Chairman Patrick Leary, Douglas Bierly, Joel Myers;

Staff: Laron Horner – Roadmaster, Jennifer Snyder – Secretary/Treasurer

Other: Jane Burrows –Old Gregg School, Robert Rayman – Solicitor, Don Grenoble – Emergency Management , Mike Lesniak - PVCEA

Visitors: Dianne Musser, Charles Stover, Donna Miller, Wesley A. Miller, Molly Miller, Jim Zubler-PVCA

CALL TO ORDER The Gregg Township, Centre County, Board of Supervisors meeting was called to order by Chairman Patrick Leary at 7:00 p.m. followed by the group reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.

There was a moment of silence for the victims and communities of the Ross & Chestnuthill Townships, Monroe County.



Old Gregg School: Ms. Burrows reported that the Old Gregg School Advisory Committee met for their August meeting on July 30, 2013. The budget was discussed. They reviewed their by-laws and made some minor changes. On September 14, they will hold an Open Mic night where bands, singing groups, etc. can perform on stage. PVCC Youth summer camp was held this past week. They did volunteer work around the center. Movie Night will be held on August 24, 2013. Story Corps will be here at the OGS in October to record conversations between people. This is an effort by the National Public Radio.

Penns Valley Code Enforcement Agency:  Mr. Lesniak spoke with Mrs. Etters about the property on School Street and believes the issues have been resolved.  He is working on some issues on Lingle Valley road and still following up on a property on Tool Shed lane. There are 163 permits being processed and the balance in the account is $7000. There was a complaint filed about trash at the Long’s trailer park that is being followed up on.

Penns Valley Conservation Association:  Mr. Zubler informed the group about some of the projects and grants that the PVCA is involved with. Creekfest is coming up on September 1st. He thanked the board for their support of past projects including the Muddy Creek Project. He also asked the Board to consider giving a donation and becoming a member. Mr. Myers made a motion to donate $150 to become a Patron of the PVCA. Second by Mr. Bierly. Vote in favor was unanimous. 3 -0



Mr. Myers made a motion to approve the July 8, 2013 Regular Meeting Minutes. Second by Mr. Bierly. Vote in favor was unanimous. 3 -0

Mr. Bierly made a motion to approve the Checking Account Detail. Second by Mr. Myers. Vote in favor was unanimous. 3 -0   

Mr. Bierly made a motion to send Ms. Snyder to the Pennsylvania Association of Municipal Administrators conference in Lancaster. Second by Mr. Myers.  Vote in favor is unanimous. 3 – 0

Mr. Bierly made a motion to move $140,000 from the General Fund to the Capital Reserve. Second by Mr. Myers. Vote in favor was unanimous. 3 -0

Mr. Myers made a motion to move $2000 from the Old Gregg School fund back to the General Fund. Second by Mr. Bierly. Vote in favor was unanimous. 3 – 0

Discussion of possible dates for budget meetings will be emailed to the group.



Mr. Horner discussed with the board the bridge on Lower Georges Valley Road over Muddy Creek. The scours on this bridge need to be addressed and money to fix this problem will need to be put in the budget next year.  This bridge has been included on the Long Range Transportation Plan/Centre County Metropolitan Planning Organization. Penn Township has the same issue with a bridge in their township and Mr. Horner has offered our assistance. Penn Township has been generous in offering us their equipment to use. Mr. Bierly made a motion to ask Mr. Franson to get a bid packet ready to do work on the LGVR Bridge. Second by Mr. Myers. Vote in favor was unanimous. 3 – 0

There is some loose board on the foot log bridge in Spring Mills. Discussion took place. We received a check from Mr. Hostettler for the damage done on Blue Ball Gap Road. Zerby Gap Boys home has asked the township to give jobs to their residents in the summer. It didn’t work this year but Mr. Horner will look into it next year. The crew has graded Allison road and halfway up Shook Hollow Road. They received an email complaint about the bushes at the intersection of Long Street and Water Street. Mr. Myers will talk to the Evan’s who own the property to see if they can trim the bushes back. They installed Penn Central Lane Sign. Meter replacement is going well. They are down to about 18 to install.

Mr. Horner and Mr. Grenoble attended the EMA meeting on July 17. They turned in our report for damages in the Township from the June storms. We are expecting to get about 75% of the money we reported.



Mr. Leary moved the discussion concerning the Spur off Firehall Road to this point on the agenda.

Mr. Wes Miller, representing Donna and Andrew Miller addressed the board with his prepared remarks. He gave a brief history of the property, 119 Water Street, Spring Mills and his concerns. Recently Ms. Miller was in the Township office and asked Ms. Snyder about getting some repairs done on the retaining wall on this particular road. Ms. Snyder indicated that she didn’t think it was a township road. After some research, the  Miller’s concluded that this road isn’t a township road and is a private road owned by Donna and Andrew Miller. Mr. Miller went on to say that unless they township has legal grounds to compel otherwise; they would like to close the roadway on or before August 30, 2013. They feel this road should have been closed after the construction project which occurred in 2002. Since the township has plowed the snow, they are asking the Township to cover the cost and complete the task of closing the roadway before August 30. As private property owners, Donna and Andrew Miller are not willing to assume the legal liability of or the maintenance costs of this road. Because this will be an inconvenience for township residence, they are posting notices in the post office, the grapevine and will contact personally the fire hall and the school district. In a letter dated earlier in the week from the Millers to the Township, they asked for any correspondence that may have occurred between the Township and Mr. Wolfe who previously owned the property. Ms. Snyder responded that she has looked through the office and there is no communication between the two parties that she could locate. Mr. Rayman addressed the group and reported that in our research, we found no formal dedication of the road to the township.  However, the law states that if a roadway is used by the public and is maintained by a township in excess of 21 years, it may be a public road and has a 30 foot right of way belonging to the municipality. The question remains when the township started maintaining the road?  If it has not been maintained by the township for more than 21 years, it would then be considered a private road and according to Mr. Rayman, the Miller’s have a right to close the road. Mr. Miller responded that it is more than just maintaining the road for it to be deemed public but that the Township would have to have kept the road in good repair. They feel that this has not been done by the township since the 2002 bridge work.  They also feel during the bridge project of 2002, Penn DOT would have sought the right of way from the Township and not Mr.  Wolfe if it was a Township road. Mr. Rayman disagreed because Penn DOT would not have found any formal dedication to the road and therefore would have gone to the property owner.  Discussion of the right of way and the determination of how the road was maintained by the Township took place. After discussion, Mr. Miller determined that the Township would not help to close this private road, they would therefore, prepare to do this as soon as possible unless compelled by Township not to do it and liability is clearly stated.  Mr.Leary stated that for as long as many folks can remember the township has maintained this road by doing winter maintenance and patched pot holes. He also stated that the amecite didn’t come from Mr. Wolfe but came from the Township. Mr. Horner stated that since being a Roadmaster, he has patched pot holes on this road as well as cold patch. He also provides winter maintenance but admits that he was told to spend as few funds as possible on this particular road. The stop signs were placed by the Township as well. Mr. Leary asked if the Miller’s would be willing to dedicate the road to the township and give them a 33 ft. right of way. The party Mr. Miller represents is not willing to give up any more property for this road. Mr. Leary explained that the township is looking into making this a safer T intersection but would have to have the funds to do such a project.  There were several concerns expressed about closing this road. Mr. Horner asked how the Miller’s planned to close the road. Mr. Miller indicated that they would follow the legal restraints of the law to proceed with the closing. Mr. Grenoble, representing the fire company, asked that a member of the fire company be present in any discussion about this road. Mr. Leary agreed they will certainly be involved in public discussion but Mr. Miller stated they would not include them in private discussion since this is a private roadway. Mr. Leary indicated the township will work to get the onus of liability off of the Millers.


Musser Property, Musser v. Gregg Township, et al. (Case No. 2011-4845): The last brief was filed yesterday and we are waiting on the judge. She can read the briefs and make a decision or she may call them back into court.


Burn/Zoning Ordinance:  Mr. Rayman asked the board if they would like to pursue changing the burn ordinance and zoning ordinance in order to qualify to apply for a DEP grant. The board agreed that what they are asking is too restrictive for the needs in our township. It was determined to table this agenda item indefinitely.


Mr. Leary moved the discussion from the New Business to this point on the agenda.


Ms. Judith Lynch addressed the Board of Supervisors to put up a Private Lane/Private Drive sign at the end of Long Street Extension or ask the owner of the property to install a sign. She was out walking one evening and was unaware that this section of the road was private. She was harassed by a resident, Mr. Bob Crust, who lives on this private lane and was told to get off in a very rude manner. Mr. Ralph Vonada owns this private lane. Discussion took place. Someone on the board will contact Mr. Vonada and see if this issue can be resolved.


Mr. Rayman was excused at this point.


Codification:  The Board discussed some final issues with the codification. We will need to have a fee schedule ready to adopt once we adopt the final version of the codification.   


Ross Hill Bridge:  Update was given. We mailed off our first reimbursement request.


Centre County Metropolitan Planning Organization – Long Range Transportation Plan:  The board discussed what bridges or roads should be included on the LRTP. It was decided that the our 3 bridges should be included, Lower Georges Valley Road over Muddy Creek and over Laurel Run as well as the Reeder Road Bridge. They would also like us to include the T-Intersection at Firehall Road. Mr. Bierly made a motion to include the three bridges and the T-Intersection at Firehall road to be added to the LRTP of the CCMPO. Second by Mr. Bierly. Vote in favor was unanimous. 3 – 0



This discussion was moved up in the agenda.





Gregg Township Planning Commission: No meeting was held in August. Nothing to report.

Emergency Management Coordinator:  Mr. Grenoble thanked the Board of Supervisors for their participation and support of the Fireman’s Carnival and Parade.  He will keep checking with the county about the disaster funding from the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

Gregg Twp Water & Sewer Authorities:  Meter installation is going good. Mr. Horner appreciates the Board’s willingness to let him do this for the water company. The sewer authority is trying to get some information to extend the life of the sewer system. They are in touch with a company that can help with this. This is a major expense with no money in the budget for this.

Penns Valley Regional Planning Commission:  The PVRPC will not meet again until September.

Tri-Municipal Park:  The Township received copies of two letters addressing the formation of an authority to govern the Tri-Municipal Park.  



The board reviewed the correspondence.


Mr. Myers made a motion to adjourn at 9:21 p.m. Second by Mr. Beirly. Vote in favor was unanimous.  3 -0


Respectfully Submitted By,




Jennifer Snyder


Jennifer Snyder


Gregg Township, Centre County


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The Supervisors

  • Joel Myers, Chairman: 574-1319
  • Douglas Bierly, Vice-Chairman: 360-1822
  • Charles Stover, Supervisor: 571-7298

Contact Information

Gregg Township Office

106 School Street
PO Box 184
Spring Mills PA  16875

Phone: (814) 422 - 8218 Fax: (814) 422-8080

Gregg Township Shed

147 Water Street

Spring Mills PA 16875

Phone: (814) 571-2096